Service tech, Union City. Finishing a conversion next week in a two-family in Weehawken. Customer wants the 275 gallon oil tank in the basement just left there, empty, "for later." Then he tells me the home inspector on another house he's buying found a buried tank in the yard during the tank sweep, and the seller says "it was abandoned years ago."
Boss is out till Monday and I'm bad at talking to customers lol. What do I tell him on both? I know we don't do tank work, I just don't want to sound like an idiot.
Basement tank first. Empty is never empty, kid. There's always sludge and some oil in the bottom. Leave it and it leaks someday, or the next buyer's inspector flags it. On most of our conversions the tank comes out: pumped, cleaned, cut up, hauled. Your town may want a permit for the removal. Tell him your boss will price it, and don't let him keep it "for later."
Foreman, Inside Wireman (IBEW) · 19 years · Morris County, NJ
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Electrical side note: the oil burner circuit and its emergency switch should be removed or properly reused during the conversion. I've seen dead burner switches left at the top of the stairs for decades confusing everybody. Label it or remove it.
HVAC contractor, owner · 25 years · Middlesex County, NJ
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On the buried tank, from my experience in NJ:
- Ask the seller for paperwork. "Abandoned" without a permit and closure paperwork from the town means very little
- If there's any sign of a leak, it becomes a cleanup, and in NJ that brings in DEP rules and certified contractors
- His attorney and insurance company should hear about it before closing, not after
- None of this is yours to sort out. Send him to his attorney and a tank company
HVAC contractor, owner · 25 years · Middlesex County, NJ
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Because old steel in wet soil eventually leaks, and nobody knows when. When it does, the cleanup can get very expensive, and it can land on the homeowner. That's why buyers here do tank sweeps, and why sellers get nervous about them.
Mechanical contractor (HVAC + plumbing) · 24 years · Burlington County, NJ
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On who actually does the tank work: mostly a separate company. On our commercial jobs it's always a sub with its own insurance for that work. Here's what I look for in that sub: their permits and paperwork, every time.
Master Plumber, second-generation shop owner · 23 years · Hudson County, NJ
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Respectfully, Ziggy, pulling isn't always the answer on buried tanks. Some are under a porch, an addition or a driveway, and abandonment in place, done properly with a permit and soil sampling, is what gets done. The paperwork is the thing. Depends on the town.
talked to him today. basement tank is coming out, boss is pricing it. told him the yard one is a lawyer question. he actually listened lol. thier inspector already told them the same thing so that helped