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codebook_dale · Electrical inspector (former contractor) · 26 years · Ocean County, NJ · Oct 1
Tip from a pro

Sump pumps on GFCI: what I tell homeowners after every big storm

Every big rain, I hear the same complaint: "the GFCI tripped and my basement flooded, why does code make me do this?" Here's how I explain it. Current code editions want GFCI protection on basement receptacles, and the old exception that let a single dedicated sump receptacle skip it went away several cycles back. Check which code edition is in effect for your permit, because an older install may have been legal when it went in. A GFCI that trips on a sump pump is usually telling you something. Pumps sit in water, and as they age the windings and cords leak current. That leak is exactly the thing that kills people in wet basements. So the answer I give isn't "remove the GFCI." It's: put a high-water alarm in the pit, think hard about a battery backup pump, test the GFCI and the pump before storm season, and replace a pump that keeps tripping it. Not legal advice, just how I'd look at it after too many flooded basements.

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benplumb79 · Apprentice plumber · 2 years · Somerset County, NJ · Sep 27
Question

Does a like-for-like water heater swap need a permit in NJ?

Sorry, another one from me. A customer in Manville asked us to swap a 40-gallon gas water heater, same spot, same venting. My boss said "we'll pull a permit" and she acted like we were trying to pad the bill. Her last plumber never pulled one. Is a straight swap actually permit work in NJ, or does it count as maintenance? And if it's a permit, who inspects it, the plumbing inspector or someone for the gas? I want to be able to explain it next time instead of just standing there.

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Dev_H · Apprentice plumber · 3 years · Gloucester County, NJ · Sep 14
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Homeowner pulled his own permit and wants us to do the work under it

Started at a new shop a few weeks ago, Gloucester County, service and repipes. Better place, actually sends me to school. Today a homeowner in Washington Township told my boss he'd already pulled the plumbing permit himself to "save money" and just wanted us to do the work. Boss said no and walked away from a decent job. Is that a real rule or is my boss being stubborn? Can a homeowner even pull a plumbing permit in NJ? And if he can, why can't a licensed shop just work under it?

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Isaiah K. · electrician helper · 1 year · Ocean County, NJ · Aug 30
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uncle wants me to wire his basement under a homeowner permit. is that allowed

my uncle in barnegat is finishing his basement and wants me to do the wiring on weekends. he says he can pull a homeowner permit and i'd just be helping him, and he'd pay me in pizza and gas money basically. i work for a remodel shop in manahawkin so i know how to do it, but i'm not licensed. is this actually allowed in nj or is the homeowner permit only if he does the work himself? would rather ask here than ask my boss. edit: he owns the house and lives there, if that matters

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Kash_sing · HVAC contractor, owner · 25 years · Middlesex County, NJ · Aug 23
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Side jobs, from the owner's side: what happens when yours calls my office

Happened again this month, so I'll write it down. A homeowner called us for a no-cool on a mini-split installed last year. Not our install. A helper from another shop put it in on weekends, cash. No permit, no proper evacuation, flare connections leaking. The homeowner wanted to know who to call about it, and the answer was nobody. What it looks like from my side: - The homeowner pays twice, once to him and once to us - If your own boss gets that call, you're probably done there - Handling refrigerant without your 608 is its own problem, and having the card doesn't make an unpermitted install legal - You have no insurance, so whatever goes wrong is on you I'm not telling anyone what to do on their own time. I'm telling you what it costs when it goes wrong.

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codebook_dale · Electrical inspector (former contractor) · 26 years · Ocean County, NJ · Aug 10
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From the inspection side: whose license belongs on a heat pump swap

I get some version of this question every week this time of year, so I'll put it in one place. Not legal advice; your local construction office has the final word. As I understand the current rules, a condenser or heat pump replacement in NJ usually touches more than one subcode. The mechanical work goes on a permit from a contractor holding the HVACR license. The new disconnect, the whip and any circuit changes are electrical work, which means an Electrical Contractor pulls that permit or the work is done under one. Some companies have both licenses in-house. Plenty don't, and that's where I see trouble: the HVAC crew runs a new circuit because the panel was right there, and nobody pulled the electrical. The HVACR license is also newer than a lot of people assume. If I remember right it became required around 2014, so you'll still meet techs who talk like it doesn't exist. If you're a helper and you don't know whose license a job is under, it's a fair thing to ask. And find out which edition of the code the permit falls under; it changes what I look for.

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codebook_dale · Electrical inspector (former contractor) · 26 years · Ocean County, NJ · Jul 27
Tip from a pro

Inspectors notice which helpers are paying attention

Something I've noticed from the inspection side, for anyone stuck in the material-and-cleanup months. The helpers who come along on inspections and actually listen are the ones I later see running jobs. Not legal advice, just how I'd look at it: if your boss lets you, be there when the inspector walks the rough. Ask what he's looking at. Ask which code edition is in effect for that permit, and then go read the section he wrote up. Bring the permit card and the plans without being asked. You'll carry material for months no matter what. Spend twenty minutes of it learning what passes and why. It's the cheapest education on the job.

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